@Ryan I think you might be right about @Dmitry comment.

We are supposed to announce Docker containers support any minute now. We have been testing for a couple of releases. Aside the usual gotchas it's "business as usual" as long as you use supported OS container images. Right now these are RH, SUSE, CentOS. 

Your Docker engine can run on anything you like of course. That's the whole point of it and it does it fast! :)

I would recommend using Ubuntu 15.05 & above as it comes with the latest kernel and therefore does not have SHMMAX restrictions (32MB!). You'll be a happy man when you run your container and ask for more shared mem in the form of globufs :-) or just during installation time.  The alternative is to use the --privileged flag which is of course not desirable.

Best Practises? Treat it as a new platform with many things to learn about it. There is much documentation out there starting from the Docker site itself.  Of particular interest is the data persistence part, as containers are immutable by nature. How do you save data? Where do you save it to? Why should I then use containers? 

if you can get hold on our site of the Global Summit 2015 presentation titled "All about Containerization" you'll find interesting things in there. Let me know.

Containers are not the solution to all our troubles. However, they aid in many aspects of architecture design as they present operational issues much earlier in the operational process. The idea is the OP people work closely with Developers... and both find a programmatic (automation) solution to the deployment of an app.

Yes, if you thought of DevOps, you're in the right quadrant. Furthermore, think of infrastructure-as-code and even immutable-infrastructure.

HTH for now

isn't create new post a little ambiguous? The first time I did it I thought I was going to create a "New Post"... while all I wanted to do and ended up doing was answering that thread, post. page discussion or whatever you or we want to call it... :)

thanks

ohh darn it... I think I meant to write the whole thing above about the "Join The Conversation" button.

What does it mean I asked myself? Will I be updated of new posting in this conversation?

nope: it means answer or post in this conversation... again, I thought it was ambiguous.. not what I've seen before..

this thread is an invitation to a dinner party! :-o

So many juicy themes and subjects to develop and think about... I'm VERY tight for time right now...

I'll get back to you all soon... it's all worth it ;)

later...

Thanks Mark. Cool.

@Ryan:

Where I come from we'd say "You are putting a lot of meat on the fire" :-)

What you're referring to is the wonderful world of DevOps. The bottom line is that, yes, you can achieve all that. However, it's a new journey on a new road and like any new adventure, we'll all learn things as we do them. We can also learn from other people and architectures that we use every day ;)

One extra aspect that makes our job interesting with Caché is the fact that it's not just code, dynamically linked to an environment (container) or statically compiled (I'm thinking of C exes, NodeJS, GOlang, Java etc.) but we have to deal with a database and a container has only 3 ways to deal with persistency.

There are interesting challenges; None insurmountable :)

Again, this topic needs a session or a day at GS :)

FYI one of the best presentation -actually talking about a real working solution ref. DevOps, micro-services and immutable-infrastructure was delivered last year at the 2014 DockerCon by the then CTO of GUILT.

IMO it's worth a watch as the guy has a very good dialectic and presentation style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaHzdqFithc

We'll need a new thread on any of the above-mentioned approaches to technologies, though :-)

Thanks for posting!

Hi Eduard,

I wanted to do that last year but I never got to start the project.

My use case was to export all messages from an Outlook format. I remember finding some script or some OSS somewhere that seemed interesting. I think that aside the 1st load the syncing is the true issue.

Do you have to go straight to the POP server?

I agree on IMAP Eduard. I never understood why it never took off as POP did... I guess Microsoft ;-)

So, can we help each other out here?

Mine was and is just a private project.... it sounds like you have to interface with an IMAP or POP server...

I've been looking but I can't find POP specific examples....

+1

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Could we also add a quick filter to "show my conversations " ?

most of the time I want to just follow and answer a thread I've been on recently etc.

All should be driven by ease of use and speed

thanks

yup, same last comment here:

:)

good point Scott: +1 for tooltips :)

+1

SPOF? single point of failure? and probably other reasons? de-coupling? Monitoring of single interfaces etc.

Scott:

it depends what you mean by a deployment tool. It opens up a whole new world of automation so you'll have to start to think about versioning your artifacts etc. It depends how you want to embrace your whole provisioning and deployment and management process.

My suggestion for infrastructure provisioning & deployment: Terraform; for management Ansible: agentless and easy to learn and use.

Of course, Puppet & Chef are strong valid alternatives but you'll have to take on board other considerations...

This subject cannot be done with one post and it really depends on how much automation you want to bring to this process. I would even suggest you consider containers. 

Once automation is seriously considered there is no turning back :-)

All the best

or COS CLI (Caché objectscript command line interface) :-o